TMI: _O_bservations
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kathygnomeI'll warn you ahead of time that even for my TMI posts, this is pretty TMI. It also probably drifts out of the medical into the personal and therefore, might be considered less worksafe. (As if any of my TMI posts are really worksafe by the most strict definitions.)
Ok, so I had an orgasm. Yay for me. Ding! Grats!
I wasn't sure I was even going to post on it. It's sort of a very "tranny" thing to do. And had it happened at four weeks like it did for my travelling companion, I probably wouldn't have. But given how quickly it seems to come (so to speak) for Dr. Chet's patients, I was starting to get concerned. I also have suffered a real major decrease in sensitivity overall and the places I'm most sensitive are also mixed with some "issues" most particularly that stray suture that used to itch? It's not painful and it's at the tip of the inner labia and they're not very big to start so it really was difficult to do anything down there (the feminist in me cringes at using that term but it best describes it) without causing some pain. And unfortunately, that's just not my thing. And honestly, I was starting to worry that this wasn't going to happen. And while I was ok with that, being ok isn't quite the same as being happy about it.
I was also, honestly, getting really horny. I mean, it's been three months. I wasn't sure before surgery what exactly the parameters of being non-orgasmic might be. If there was no desire, that would be one thing, but the idea of being horny all the time and never orgasming? That wasn't a real pleasant thought. To be honest, I never asked the question because being horny but non-orgasmic sounded pretty hellish and if that was the case, I didn't want to know. Mainly because that would have been a price worth paying, so why worry about it.
So what was it like. Well it felt good. (Duh.) But what was it like. Well it was both different and the same as before. It did seem to be more intense. A lot more intense actually. That's been my experience since starting estrogen, but it was different from before surgery. It was another step more intense, but not nearly as much as the step up when I started HRT. That could also be because orgasms are less frequent or because it required longer and more aggressive stimulation to get there. It did seem to have more of a physical effect on my body. Now I'd had these sorts of orgasms before, even when I was a boy. But they were extremely extremely rare.
I guess the next thing is sort of the personal view of it all. Well, it didn't feel like boy stuff. For lack of a better way of putting it. I avoided the whole inner labia thing by using my palm over the entire organ. It still hurt a bit, but not so much that it distracted me from the task at hand so to speak. It also stimulated a lot of areas that were deeper in my anatomy.
The key question though is was it the same type of orgasm that a woman would have. And I think pretty much the answer is not really, but it sure wasn't male. While it probably looked distinctly female, the type of stimulation required was very similar to before. It wasn't quite stroking off, but it was close, and I'm pretty sure one of the major things being stimulated was subdermal left over male stuff--there's erectile tissue going fairly deep, it's more or less attached to the clitoris, but I think with Chet it maybe a bit more submerged--he tends towards very small clits. I have no idea how homologous this is to female structures. Oh, and the feeling was far more spread out, rather than concentrated. Not just not in an organ I don't have anymore, but it also wasn't concentrated in the rearranged tissues of the organ I no longer have. The type of muscle spasms just weren't quite the same as I'm used to in my partners. On the other hand, I wasn't really in any position to monitor what was going on inside my vagina and there definitely were muscle spasms. A lot of them. I also do ejaculate apparently. It wasn't a squirt. I'm told this is because the prostate is still present. It was a sort of post-orgasmic ooze, but it was out of the urethra and maybe my girlfriend's have all been faking (doubt it), but I've never experienced anything like that from the other side of things. I guess the good news is that it's nothing anyone would notice, it's just that I'm aware of it. Oddly pre-op but post-hrt I had no discharge whatsoever. One thing is certain tho, I am removed from the tyranny of male ejaculation. On one side, that means I physically don't have to orgasm once or twice a day like one needs to use a bathroom--that is a reality of male life that most women don't appreciate and I think is responsible for a lot of why men and women tend towards a view sexuality as less and more intimate respectively. But on the other side, it means I am multiply orgasmic. (Oh wait, both those sides are positive. What do you know. Weeee!)
I told you it was TMI!
Ok, so I had an orgasm. Yay for me. Ding! Grats!
I wasn't sure I was even going to post on it. It's sort of a very "tranny" thing to do. And had it happened at four weeks like it did for my travelling companion, I probably wouldn't have. But given how quickly it seems to come (so to speak) for Dr. Chet's patients, I was starting to get concerned. I also have suffered a real major decrease in sensitivity overall and the places I'm most sensitive are also mixed with some "issues" most particularly that stray suture that used to itch? It's not painful and it's at the tip of the inner labia and they're not very big to start so it really was difficult to do anything down there (the feminist in me cringes at using that term but it best describes it) without causing some pain. And unfortunately, that's just not my thing. And honestly, I was starting to worry that this wasn't going to happen. And while I was ok with that, being ok isn't quite the same as being happy about it.
I was also, honestly, getting really horny. I mean, it's been three months. I wasn't sure before surgery what exactly the parameters of being non-orgasmic might be. If there was no desire, that would be one thing, but the idea of being horny all the time and never orgasming? That wasn't a real pleasant thought. To be honest, I never asked the question because being horny but non-orgasmic sounded pretty hellish and if that was the case, I didn't want to know. Mainly because that would have been a price worth paying, so why worry about it.
So what was it like. Well it felt good. (Duh.) But what was it like. Well it was both different and the same as before. It did seem to be more intense. A lot more intense actually. That's been my experience since starting estrogen, but it was different from before surgery. It was another step more intense, but not nearly as much as the step up when I started HRT. That could also be because orgasms are less frequent or because it required longer and more aggressive stimulation to get there. It did seem to have more of a physical effect on my body. Now I'd had these sorts of orgasms before, even when I was a boy. But they were extremely extremely rare.
I guess the next thing is sort of the personal view of it all. Well, it didn't feel like boy stuff. For lack of a better way of putting it. I avoided the whole inner labia thing by using my palm over the entire organ. It still hurt a bit, but not so much that it distracted me from the task at hand so to speak. It also stimulated a lot of areas that were deeper in my anatomy.
The key question though is was it the same type of orgasm that a woman would have. And I think pretty much the answer is not really, but it sure wasn't male. While it probably looked distinctly female, the type of stimulation required was very similar to before. It wasn't quite stroking off, but it was close, and I'm pretty sure one of the major things being stimulated was subdermal left over male stuff--there's erectile tissue going fairly deep, it's more or less attached to the clitoris, but I think with Chet it maybe a bit more submerged--he tends towards very small clits. I have no idea how homologous this is to female structures. Oh, and the feeling was far more spread out, rather than concentrated. Not just not in an organ I don't have anymore, but it also wasn't concentrated in the rearranged tissues of the organ I no longer have. The type of muscle spasms just weren't quite the same as I'm used to in my partners. On the other hand, I wasn't really in any position to monitor what was going on inside my vagina and there definitely were muscle spasms. A lot of them. I also do ejaculate apparently. It wasn't a squirt. I'm told this is because the prostate is still present. It was a sort of post-orgasmic ooze, but it was out of the urethra and maybe my girlfriend's have all been faking (doubt it), but I've never experienced anything like that from the other side of things. I guess the good news is that it's nothing anyone would notice, it's just that I'm aware of it. Oddly pre-op but post-hrt I had no discharge whatsoever. One thing is certain tho, I am removed from the tyranny of male ejaculation. On one side, that means I physically don't have to orgasm once or twice a day like one needs to use a bathroom--that is a reality of male life that most women don't appreciate and I think is responsible for a lot of why men and women tend towards a view sexuality as less and more intimate respectively. But on the other side, it means I am multiply orgasmic. (Oh wait, both those sides are positive. What do you know. Weeee!)
I told you it was TMI!
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Date: 2005-08-10 06:31 pm (UTC)Also, female ejaculation(see also, oozing-of-much-liquid), at least in my experience, comes from the urethra. So unless there's something my body didn't tell me...it's normal, albeit less common. :)
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Date: 2005-08-10 06:37 pm (UTC)Glad things are working well for you. :)
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Date: 2005-08-10 06:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-08-10 07:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-08-10 07:21 pm (UTC)That was great!
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Date: 2005-08-10 07:22 pm (UTC)it was worth it
YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
congratulations!
reall major major congrats
and I can read any more before it put me into depression
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Date: 2005-08-10 09:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-08-10 11:11 pm (UTC)~kit~
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Date: 2005-08-10 11:15 pm (UTC)Damn, my dysphoria is really acting up right now.
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Date: 2005-08-11 12:19 am (UTC)I have to admit, I'm considering Dr. Chettawat more now ... but still ... dunno.
I guess in this sense, I'm most women. The concept of having to orgasm once or twice a day - like needing to use the bathroom - seems ... well, alien to me, although I assume you're exaggerating here. Even as a boy, I never experienced that. On hormones, with the addition of progesterone, I have a little bit of an itch, that wakes up every couple weeks, but ... it can easily be ignored. (considering it woke up a week ago, and I haven't scratched it yet ... yeah, I can ignore it ;-)
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Date: 2005-08-11 12:47 pm (UTC)It's not pleasent, mind you. Heh. Consider yourseld lucky.
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Date: 2005-08-11 12:50 pm (UTC)Three months?
Date: 2005-08-11 02:04 am (UTC)But on the subject of ejaculting, I had no problems getting a small bit of fluid out during mastubation or sex with my fiancé. Also, I've had several female partners who not only ejacuklated, but did so forcefully. It is not common, but you can find the trait in a number of women.
My only problem right now is that when my fiancé tries to get cuddly with me, it turns me on and my outer labia start swelling... and well, honsetly it feels like getting kicked in the balls. >.o
Re: Three months?
Date: 2005-08-11 10:47 am (UTC)Once the swelling overall goes down, the ill feelings when you get aroused should go away. The labia will also look a bit less pronounced and close better.
Are you still over there?
Re: Three months?
Date: 2005-08-11 04:04 pm (UTC)I don't mean you, but while at the hotel, I met a couple of other girls who had just had SRS and were munching MacDonald's every day because they said nothing else would stay down. That may be true, but being mostly sugar carbs and very little real nutritional content, it doesn't help the healing process much. By comparison, my diet both before and after surgery was mostly pasta and rice with meats and cheeses in many forms. In Thailand, my average breakfast was the fried rice with egg, two strips of bacon, and a slice of ham along with my normal coffee and juice, with that much protein going in, it's not as hard for my body to rebuild itself, you know?
Re: Three months?
Date: 2005-08-11 04:16 pm (UTC)Fried rice in the morning was so good.
I can't fathom people who go there and won't eat any of the food. There's so much variety, there has to be SOMETHING you like.
Though again in the search for protein, I don't want to think about how much McDeath Fried Chicken we had.
Re: Three months?
Date: 2005-08-11 04:41 pm (UTC)You're right about the local foods though. I had several of the spicy soups along with the "Spicy Cavilla Fruit Salad" at the hotel and loved them immensely. I really wanted to have some Japanese food too, but Luche ended up going to the Belle Pizza on most every trip to the Seacon Square so he could get a fix of his food. I love Italian (dur) so I wasn't complaining, but internally I was whining "I want katsudon and ramen!" -_-
Re: Three months?
Date: 2005-08-11 04:47 pm (UTC)I mean really, it's noodle soup? How is this exotic?
*shrug*
I hope to go back sometime as a tourist.
Re: Three months?
Date: 2005-08-11 08:57 pm (UTC)See, I'm planning on arriving and spending two weeks goofing off. Then after I've had some real vacation time, I'll go in for my labiaplasty. Smart, no?
Re: Three months?
Date: 2005-08-11 11:00 pm (UTC)Though I had so little there to start, it's pretty amazing what he did.
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Date: 2005-08-18 04:03 am (UTC)i am very close to scheduling with dr. chet for ffs so anything at all yhou can tell me about him or put me in contact with others who've had the op would be great... even if they are srs..
valentina_giavelli @ yahoo dot com
also .. i know this is eeeky but ... i would hope to see your results if you are comfy ... or .. wait till lwe know each other is ok.
my main concern is his terribly lack of response to email questions so any advice there would be great
hugs
val
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Date: 2005-08-18 10:50 am (UTC)All of my stuff is on my web site. www.kathygnome.com there's a writeup of him as a surgeon, the facilities, staff, hotel--even the number to order McDonalds and Pizza delivered.