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[kathygnome]

I'm already hearing the waffle words. The press is covering the "battle" and not the issues.

Looks like an easy confirmation to me. There will be a lot of carefully staged "fighting" in order to raise money on both sides. But in the end? He's in Roe's out. And one more vote and it all goes. Griswald? Hell, maybe Brown and Loving. Pretty much the entire 20th century.

Well, it's what America voted for. There was nothing stealth about Bush in his second term.

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[dellenn.livejournal.com]

"Well, it's what America voted for. There was nothing stealth about Bush in his second term."

My thoughts exactly. Nothing about this should be a surprise to anyone.

[kathygnome.livejournal.com]

I find it astounding how many people stick their head in the sand. There's a lot of politically moderate people who simply can't conceive of how radical the agenda of the right is. I'm not sure what it will take to wake some of them up, short of The Handmaid's Tale.

[dellenn.livejournal.com]

"I'm not sure what it will take to wake some of them up, short of The Handmaid's Tale."

That makes me shudder, literally. But I think the damage is already done. Even if people do wake up and realize they made a mistake it's going to take years to fix it, if that's even possible.

The news is just full of warm n' fuzzy stories today, including a special report on the nation's fastest growing Church: Mormon. That's enough to make a person smile.

[khandro.livejournal.com]

The press is covering the "battle" and not the issues.

This is the part the drives me absolutely crazy. What ever happened to objective reporting?

[lassiter.livejournal.com]

Well, it's what America voted for. There was nothing stealth about Bush in his second term.

It might have swung the few needed votes if conservative Catholic John Kerry hadn't stated in a national pre-election interview that he would have "no problem" appointing an anti-abortion candidate to the Supreme Court.

Democrat says party won't oppose Alito

[lassiter.livejournal.com]

"The nomination of Judge Samuel Alito to the U.S. Supreme Court is unlikely to provoke an all-out confirmation war in the Republican-controlled Senate, a member of the bipartisan band of lawmakers key to his fate said on Tuesday.

"The so-called 'Gang of 14,' a group of mostly moderate senators who have been trying to avoid crippling clashes over judicial nominees, will not meet until Thursday to discuss Alito, a conservative appeals judge nominated by President George W. Bush on Monday to succeed the more-moderate Sandra Day O'Connor on the high court.

"But a Republican member of the group predicted a procedural move to kill the nomination would be averted, and a Democratic member said he has heard no talk at this early stage of such an attempt.

'I'm not hearing it from my colleagues,' said Sen. Ben Nelson, a Nebraska Democrat and a founder of the group of 14."

Full story at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051101/pl_nm/court_congress_dc

Re: Democrat says party won't oppose Alito

[kathygnome.livejournal.com]

Roll over like good puppies! Now fetch.

Weee.

[moogiewoogie.livejournal.com]

Well, we're lucky. At lease our party has a chance of winning in 2008. And while I support the efforts of Democrats, they need to fight harder instead of backing off. If the "religious-reich" can be evil and underhanded, why can't the moderate left?

The good thing is that you'll win 2008.

The bad thing is that it'll take 30-50 years to undo some of these changes.

Re: Weee.

[openpalm.livejournal.com]

huh... I haven't seen or heard anything lately that makes me optimistic that the Democrats will win in 2008... and believe me, I'm looking!

Re: Weee.

[kathygnome.livejournal.com]

I'm assuming they get trounced. That's if we even have an election, the whole "bird flu" thing really is getting played up and I don't like it.

Re: Weee.

[mae-mdwst.livejournal.com]

Ahhh yes, I have been waiting to see what would happen in this aspect. Do we get an Emperor? Will Scooter Libby come back from his exhile in an all black outfit and a helmet and a new name?

I have a bad feeling about this.

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[mon462.livejournal.com]

Here's a couple of interesting links regarding the bird flu situation. The first is from the British Medical Journal. The second is about a possible connection between the vacine manufacturer and Rummy. If the second is true, it explains why the adminstration is suddenly interested in this.
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/331/7523/975
http://www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/rumsfeld_to_profit_from_avian_flu_hoax.htm#

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[dashingdeviant.livejournal.com]

(note, I'm not assuming you're from the US - in fact it sounds like you're not - though most people in the US don't realize were not even a fake democracy anymore)

There aren't even attempts at real elections in the US anymore (we've never had real unbiased elections - the civil rights movements of the 60s just had them move toward disenfranchisement and police intimidation). Are you familiar with the voting machines with built in backdoors and no papertrails? Police and National Guard turning people away from polling booths in minority areas? The disenfranchisement of minority voters? In many states, if you are ever convicted of a felony, you can never, ever, vote again. Guess who are disapportionately charged with drug charges? Poor, black males.

Guess who poor, black males overwhelming vote for? Democrats.

Do you really, really think all those poor counties in Ohio really went overwhelmingly toward Bush?

There will never, ever be another non-fundamentalist, non-neocon president in the USA. They will eventually stop with the formality of elections.

The USA is already the Republic of Gilead. Has been since 2000. Been quickly building toward it since 1980.

[mon462.livejournal.com]

I agree that it will take 30-50 years to undue the damage caused by this administration. Some of it will never be undone. As for Alito, I never took the Miers nomination seriously. I always thought that she was a red herring the GW threw out there in order to nominate someone that is even more conservative than Scalia after she withdrew or was not approved by the Senate. Canada is looking even better to me these days.

[the-mac-danee.livejournal.com]

Hi, new to your LJ, I saw it through a friends list somewhere.

I guess I do not understand the scare tatic of Roe going away, not to mention, Roe I believe has since become anti-abortion. It's not like the judges go back to old cases and say, let's over turn this one, and this one and oh, this one over here. Any case has got to make its way through the system and only IF the Court decides to take it, will there be any chance of being overturned. BTW, I'm pro-abortion (Let's not kid ourselves, its not pro-choice, if it was, the father would have more say than he does now) through the first trimester and after that on a case by case basis.

As for the Dems gaining office in 08, do you honestly think things will change much? Both parties are in it for power and reelection. They do not care about the rich, the poor, the middle...it's all stinky politics.

We need a MASSIVE change to our system and that has to come from both ends of the spectrum. As the frustration grows, being an Independant may be peoples alternative.